Saturday, August 26, 2006

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Isa 48:1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the LORD, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness. 2 For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name. 3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I showed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass. 4 Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass; 5 I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I showed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them. 6 Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have showed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them. 7 They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them. 8 Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb. 9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off. 10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.


From the very beginning of the context you can tell he is speaking to Isreal. Then he says that God told them things from the beginning, before they came to pass. Because he knew they were obstinate and lest when he tell them they say "Behold, I knew them".

Verse 8 is really the one is question for those who use it for the sinful nature. First, the womb he is talking about is Eygpt. But even if it wasn't and it was a physical womb, it doesn't matter. Because God said he knew they would deal very theacherously. Then that they were called a transgressor from the womb. Because God knew it. This obviously has nothing to do with nature. And everything to do with him chosen them in the furnace of affliction (Eygpt), and telling them things then that He knew they would be and do thereafter.
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